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	<title>Comments on: Internet Draft about &#8220;geo&#8221; URI published</title>
	<link>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/</link>
	<description>a Uniform Resource Identifier for geographic locations</description>
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		<title>by: Andy Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-13</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I proposed a similar thing but using a crazy packed representation of latitude and longitude a couple of years ago:

http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/geowanking/2005-February/001399.html

Your idea is better for its simplicity. Oh, and the fact that you've actually done something about it :)

Excellent work, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I proposed a similar thing but using a crazy packed representation of latitude and longitude a couple of years ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/geowanking/2005-February/001399.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/lists.burri.to');">http://lists.burri.to/pipermail/geowanking/2005-February/001399.html</a></p>
<p>Your idea is better for its simplicity. Oh, and the fact that you&#8217;ve actually done something about it <img src='http://geouri.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Excellent work, thanks.
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		<title>by: Slashgeo</title>
		<link>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-11</guid>
					<description>&lt;strong&gt;geoURI Scheme: a URI for Geographic Locations...&lt;/strong&gt;

There a new standard in the work for a Uniform Resource Identifier for geographic locations named geoURI. The published their IETF Internet Draft. They even already released a Firefox extension which supports geoURIs. From their website: "A dedicated ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>geoURI Scheme: a URI for Geographic Locations&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>There a new standard in the work for a Uniform Resource Identifier for geographic locations named geoURI. The published their IETF Internet Draft. They even already released a Firefox extension which supports geoURIs. From their website: &#8220;A dedicated &#8230;
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		<title>by: Christian</title>
		<link>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 20:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-3</guid>
					<description>Tom,

thanks for the detailed comment, you made some excellent points!

We found the dilemma of how to indicate elevation information is what is technically correct and what is the common understanding of elevation.

E.g. a tourist (non-geodesy person) wants to provide a geouri for Badwater Basin: 

geo:36.230833,-116.769167, but which elevation value would it be?

&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cs___/171517091/" title="Photo Sharing" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/171517091_51387a3db2_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="85.5m below sea level" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

Please consider the document as a first draft, aimed to roughly give an idea about what geouri is about and what applications could be possible. There is still some work to do...

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>thanks for the detailed comment, you made some excellent points!</p>
<p>We found the dilemma of how to indicate elevation information is what is technically correct and what is the common understanding of elevation.</p>
<p>E.g. a tourist (non-geodesy person) wants to provide a geouri for Badwater Basin: </p>
<p>geo:36.230833,-116.769167, but which elevation value would it be?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cs___/171517091/" title="Photo Sharing" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/www.flickr.com');"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/171517091_51387a3db2_m.jpg" width="240" height="160" alt="85.5m below sea level" /></a></p>
<p>Please consider the document as a first draft, aimed to roughly give an idea about what geouri is about and what applications could be possible. There is still some work to do&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks again!
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		<title>by: Tom Brown</title>
		<link>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://geouri.org/2007/02/24/internet-draft-about-geo-uri-published/#comment-2</guid>
					<description>On the whole I like this draft and look forward to widespread use of a single way to represent a position as a text string.

Measuring altitude is tough both because of the lack of accuracy in todays GPS and differing ideas of what one should be measuring. Instead of saying altitude above general MSL you should specify height above the WGS 84 EGM96 Geoid.

On the other hand, as Laurence Penney points out at http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/georss/2005-November/000225.html, many geo tags will have wild and unknown errors because of user error and differences between tools. Date and "user-agent" would be useful optional meta-data.

In practice for many URIs height relative to the earth's surface may be even more useful. For example, is a shop in a subway or on the ground floor? I'm not proposing that you include surface relative height, but it sucks that a person standing at the base of building with a geoURI of unknown origin and a modern GPS doesn't have a good way to determine where the URI points. I guess the best solution is to pull out a map to find the altitude of the ground and hope the geoURI creator did the same thing.

Typo? "mean seal level" -&#62; "mean sea level"
Spelling and wording suggestion: "five decimal rougly correlate to about one meter" -&#62; "0.00001 degrees is roughly one meter"
"Remove abundant" -&#62; "Remove redundant"

I don't like the idea of using scale, height and width to specify a bounding box as common extension of a geoURI. The obvious criticism is that it depends on pixel size. You could fix pixel size to the smallest detail a human can normally see on a printed map, say 0.5mm. More fundamentally I'd like a geoURI to locate a rough area rather than a point. A radius in m can give the mapping service a hint of what scale map to return and helps a geoURI for a telephone look different from a geoURI for a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the whole I like this draft and look forward to widespread use of a single way to represent a position as a text string.</p>
<p>Measuring altitude is tough both because of the lack of accuracy in todays GPS and differing ideas of what one should be measuring. Instead of saying altitude above general MSL you should specify height above the WGS 84 EGM96 Geoid.</p>
<p>On the other hand, as Laurence Penney points out at <a href="http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/georss/2005-November/000225.html," rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:urchinTracker ('/outbound/comment/lists.eogeo.org');">http://lists.eogeo.org/pipermail/georss/2005-November/000225.html,</a> many geo tags will have wild and unknown errors because of user error and differences between tools. Date and &#8220;user-agent&#8221; would be useful optional meta-data.</p>
<p>In practice for many URIs height relative to the earth&#8217;s surface may be even more useful. For example, is a shop in a subway or on the ground floor? I&#8217;m not proposing that you include surface relative height, but it sucks that a person standing at the base of building with a geoURI of unknown origin and a modern GPS doesn&#8217;t have a good way to determine where the URI points. I guess the best solution is to pull out a map to find the altitude of the ground and hope the geoURI creator did the same thing.</p>
<p>Typo? &#8220;mean seal level&#8221; -&gt; &#8220;mean sea level&#8221;<br />
Spelling and wording suggestion: &#8220;five decimal rougly correlate to about one meter&#8221; -&gt; &#8220;0.00001 degrees is roughly one meter&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Remove abundant&#8221; -&gt; &#8220;Remove redundant&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the idea of using scale, height and width to specify a bounding box as common extension of a geoURI. The obvious criticism is that it depends on pixel size. You could fix pixel size to the smallest detail a human can normally see on a printed map, say 0.5mm. More fundamentally I&#8217;d like a geoURI to locate a rough area rather than a point. A radius in m can give the mapping service a hint of what scale map to return and helps a geoURI for a telephone look different from a geoURI for a country.
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